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Attacks based around the economic shit he would leave us in would be better advised.

As opposed to the economic utopia the vast majority of the population currently find themselves in under the current rammel?

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As opposed to the economic utopia the vast majority of the population currently find themselves in under the current rammel?

Im broke as fuck and would be classed as poverty ridden, no way would I take Corbyn and his crazy money growing on trees policy over this lot. Better the devil you know.

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Im broke as fuck and would be classed as poverty ridden, no way would I take Corbyn and his crazy money growing on trees policy over this lot. Better the devil you know.

I was ever so slightly joking and as much as I idealistically agree with Corbyns stance on many matters I think it is wishful thinking at best that he would ever be able to properly and successfully implement them, for a number of reasons. The main one of course is the power that big business has over everyone, not just politicians, these days.

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Corbyn is one thing. As much as I find old Steptoe a twisty little fucker who I don't think is as straight down the line as he makes out, it's those behind and around him that worry me. I'm not sure he really has the hold over them and if he comes to power they'll take that as free reign.

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May will be gone within 6 months I reckon.

I think shes dead in the water and probably knows it. Shes desperately trying to hang on to power by placating the mouthy morons but every way she turns, shes done for.

 

She was out of her depth from day one.

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Corbyn is one thing. As much as I find old Steptoe a twisty little fucker who I don't think is as straight down the line as he makes out, it's those behind and around him that worry me. I'm not sure he really has the hold over them and if he comes to power they'll take that as free reign.

 

Specifically what are you worried about, out of interest?

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I think shes dead in the water and probably knows it. Shes desperately trying to hang on to power by placating the mouthy morons but every way she turns, shes done for.

 

She was out of her depth from day one.

Stubborn old boot should've gone after the election. She'll do anything to hang onto that job. Can't stand her but what's waiting in the wings is gonna be worse.

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I was ever so slightly joking and as much as I idealistically agree with Corbyns stance on many matters I think it is wishful thinking at best that he would ever be able to properly and successfully implement them, for a number of reasons. The main one of course is the power that big business has over everyone, not just politicians, these days.

Yeah I agree. I actually liked Corbyn when he was first appointed leader and agree with him on many issues (not the terrorist sympathising). His ideas are great but they are just fantasy. I can remember when I was at sixth form one of my teachers saying if youre not a socialist in college and uni you have no heart, if youre a socialist when youre an adult then you have no brain. I dont think Corbyn is a nasty or vindictive man like many try to portray him, though some of his supporters are, hes just a hippy with some fanciful ideas.

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Stubborn old boot should've gone after the election. She'll do anything to hang onto that job. Can't stand her but what's waiting in the wings is gonna be worse.

 

I think that, I'd rather an incompetent Tory than a hateful and spiteful one, which is what the others seem to be apart from Boris who also falls under incompetent.

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Specifically what are you worried about, out of interest?

Several things really. the point I'll stick to though is the people around him and advancing him. There's a following around him that has elevated him to a cult like status. Although he's at the head of this, I'm not sure how actual in charge of them he his. His momentum crew are what worry me. They sing his name and trot out his mantras, but they look a lot like the militant tendency of the 80s. There are people like Ken Livingstone and other people with some iffy views, briefly suspended and now being brought back in. There was the recent story at an exec meeting where they stopped a candidate for a post speaking apparently for a procedure violation whilst they had seemingly been okay with it, until they apparently learned their candidate was behind in the polls.

 

At the moment they're advancing Corbyn and seem to be not standing on their arguments for that but there seem to have been a number of stories (from within the party), where they're snuffing out opposition to their leader. The question is where do they stop once they've done that. What concerns me is they won't and that will be their general view of life. Once in power that doesn't bode well. That comes back to my original point of how in control he is. If he says stop, will they or will they be a beast he will have lost control over?

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Good to see a strong and robust response to the Russia attack by the Prime Minister and most of the House of Commons.

 

Unfortunately not everyone shares the same view. Jeremy Corbyn is an utter disgrace to this country offering up appeasement no doubt in return for a few more star turns on Russia Today, his mate Chris Williamson is sitting behind him reading the Morning Star. If these clowns get into power then this country really will be in desperate straights.

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Good to see a strong and robust response to the Russia attack by the Prime Minister and most of the House of Commons.

 

Unfortunately not everyone shares the same view. Jeremy Corbyn is an utter disgrace to this country offering up appeasement no doubt in return for a few more star turns on Russia Today, his mate Chris Williamson is sitting behind him reading the Morning Star. If these clowns get into power then this country really will be in desperate straights.

 

You talk about Russia Today as if it's just the left that go on it - https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/10/scandal-tory-mps-have-made-more-appearances-on-russia-today-in-the-past-two-years-than-labour-mps/

 

A lot of people have a lot to answer for with their Russian ties. That includes Corbyn but extends far in to the Tory party too.

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Interesting to see the vote to cut free school meals. Because of the embarrassing deal cut with the DUP, Northern Ireland will be protected from these.

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Interesting to see the vote to cut free school meals. Because of the embarrassing deal cut with the DUP, Northern Ireland will be protected from these.

 

And they have the gall to walk through the lobbies and deprive English, Scottish and Welsh children. Shameless.

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Meanwhile I can't remember too much on tightening up tax money disappearing offshore, seeing as the poorest and disabled are taking a hit it seems strange. The Tories are like the **** at school who'd capture an insect, pull it's legs off and keep it in a matchbox til it died. In fact, I'd say they were that **** in school. All of 'em.

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No one who is currently eligible for free school meals under Universal Credit will lose their entitlement.

In fact, under Universal Credit, 50,000 more children will receive school meals by 2022 than would have done under the previous benefits system.

This is not a case of the government taking free school meals from a million children who are currently receiving them: it’s about comparing two future, hypothetical scenarios. Both of them are more generous than the old benefits system.

Fair play to the Tories on this one.

 

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That's made me into looking deeper into this - the official Tory line is what IKS says.

 

The DUP vote was neither here nor there given the numbers of who voted for, against or abstained.

 

If you read between the lines of what is going on here I don't see how any more kids would become eligible, considering that all kids of parents who are on some benefit - can't remember the name of it haha. The threshold of said benefit will go up but if everyone on it is already getting free meals I'm presuming some won't once the threshold comes in - this is in six months thanks to the DUP being concerned at the impact on children. The concern seems to be for people living in London especially. To be honest, God knows how most people get by there with two parents working.

 

However it works, let's hope it isn't a cull on poor children like the cull on the disabled.

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You talk about Russia Today as if it's just the left that go on it - https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/10/scandal-tory-mps-have-made-more-appearances-on-russia-today-in-the-past-two-years-than-labour-mps/

 

A lot of people have a lot to answer for with their Russian ties. That includes Corbyn but extends far in to the Tory party too.

 

My one issue with Corbyn is that he's an old hippie. I'd argue he has no Russian allegience but he's just a diffuser - this is brilliant at times but not if you're dealing with mental defectives. Sometimes you need a bastard that is prepared to go a step further than their opponent, this is what Putin is the master at, Churchill was the same as was Thatcher.

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That's made me into looking deeper into this - the official Tory line is what IKS says.

 

Channel 4 factcheck.

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My one issue with Corbyn is that he's an old hippie. I'd argue he has no Russian allegience but he's just a diffuser - this is brilliant at times but not if you're dealing with mental defectives. Sometimes you need a bastard that is prepared to go a step further than their opponent, this is what Putin is the master at, Churchill was the same as was Thatcher.

We are a bit toothless these days up against Russia. Wonder who these diplomats are. Probably a couple from the embassy canteen, the bloke who washes the ambassadors car and maybe a few flunkies who shovel shit around the place.

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Putin is presiding over a mafia state ... He has no respect for human rights or conventions . I think the only way to influence him would be to cancel the upcoming World Cup , however , FIFA would never even contemplate doing so ..

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