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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:22 PM

Thoughts?

 

England land a typically jammy group with Belgium, Panama and Tunisia.

 

Argentina look to have a couple of potential banana skins in Iceland and Nigeria, plus a decent Croatia side.

 

Group E looks like it could be tasty, Brazil, Serbia, Switzerland, Costa Rica.

 

Portugal and Spain drawn together in Group B. If either win that game, the loser may have Morocco breathing down their neck. Could get interesting.

 

 

 



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:33 PM

You say that but England will likely fail to win a game no matter the opposition. 



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:36 PM

Regardless of whether England win the group or finish as runners up a relatively soft passage to the quarters surely awaits with Colombia, Poland, Japan or Senegal in the second round.

 

Gets more interesting in the quarters. If England win their group, their likely opposition will be Brazil. If England finish runners up, they could potentially get the winners of Group F - probably Germany. I'm sure we can all agree either of those games in the quarter finals of a World Cup would be a mouth watering prospect.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:43 PM

You say that but England will likely fail to win a game no matter the opposition. 

 

:laughingsmiley: :laughingsmiley: :laughingsmiley:

 

Well, to be more accurate no matter who the opposition are England always take the hard road. Wouldn't be surprised if they draw the first two, cue cries from Carlisle to Plymouth for the manager's P45. England will then  pull it round with a late winner against Belgium, all of a sudden everything is alright. A comfortable 3-0 trouncing of the second round opposition follows, all of a sudden this is the best England team since 66 and the World Cup is surely coming home..............only for a penalty shootout against Germany or a Neymar 35 yard lob to dash hopes once again..........



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:44 PM

You say that but England will likely fail to win a game no matter the opposition.


That's because there are no easy games at this level - so the experts keep telling us, despite the fact they don't present problems for Italy, Germany, Spain and so forth.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 03:08 PM

That's because there are no easy games at this level - so the experts keep telling us, despite the fact they don't present problems for Italy, Germany, Spain and so forth.


They must pose some problems for Italy as they didn't make it. ;)

As for the draw. Very few scenarios would've been better for England to be honest. Belgium will be tough but we really should put the other two away. Panama have an average age if 34 or something silly like that ffs.

Must be the most underwhelming opening game of any tournament though...Russia vs Saudi Arabia...

The situation is what it is Natalie.


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Posted 02 December 2017 - 05:40 PM

Must be the most underwhelming opening game of any tournament though...Russia vs Saudi Arabia...

 

It has some attraction for the purists and it's interesting in that it brings together teams from two different cultures, religions etc but yeah, thinking back to the openers we've had in the past it's not likely to bring in the four cans of Carling and petrol station England shirt brigade. For some reason in 2006 FIFA changed to having the opening games featuring the defending champions to the host nation. That's fine when the host nation is Germany or Brazil, but less likely to bring in the casual fan when the home team is South Africa or Russia.



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Posted 02 December 2017 - 09:45 PM

Is it right the last knockout game we won was in 2002? I can't remember when we won one before then (in normal time) 


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Posted 02 December 2017 - 10:23 PM

Is it right the last knockout game we won was in 2002? I can't remember when we won one before then (in normal time) 

 

Not quite, beat Ecuador 1-0 in the second round in 2006 in normal time. Not managed the feat since!



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Posted 02 December 2017 - 11:13 PM

They must pose some problems for Italy as they didn't make it. ;)
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Fair point. I was thinking more in terms of it being the general drivel we trot out with each tournament. My own memories of these tournaments is not that we watch a match of two equally great teams and that it's that what thwarted us, but that we look utterly lacklustre against poor teams. Quite simply we don't look fucking arsed against teams we should be getting wins against because we lower the bar to meet them.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 04:31 AM

Well, what a jammy group. A narrow win over Panama and at least a draw against Tunisia should see us squeeze through. I wouldn't give England much chance against Poland in the next round though.

 

Argentina's draw is tough. I'l get a prediction in early that they won't get out of that group B)


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 07:31 AM

Is it right the last knockout game we won was in 2002? I can't remember when we won one before then (in normal time) 


Here's a shocking stat.

Since '66, England have won just 6 knockout games in ANY tournaments.

Ecuador 06
Denmark 02
Spain 96
Belgium 90
Cameroon 90
Paraguay 86

One of them was on penalties and another was the last kick of the game in extra time. We've never won a European Championships knock out game within 120 mins.

The situation is what it is Natalie.





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